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Monday, 20 December 2010

Reactions to Jesse's Pentagon Circus

Posted on 08:04 by Unknown
Finally got the chance to watch it myself. My thoughts:

1. The standdown witness is an LA building inspector? Of course, it makes complete sense to me! And it's no surprise that he tunes in to "the high-level police radio frequency" and learns that a missile hit the Pentagon. Let's put some timeframes on this. Jesse clearly states that Lewis learned this after he learned about the standdown. But what time was the Pentagon hit? Around 9:38 in the morning, right? What time is that in LA? So now we're supposed to believe that an LA building inspector was at work at LAX before 6:30 in the morning?

2. Matt Sullivan, who gets interviewed in the second segment is a "reporter" for the kook newspaper, the Rock Creek Free Press.

3. Dwain Deets, the former NASA engineer, embarrasses himself with his assumption that the "official story" says the nose of the plane must have made the hole in the C ring. Of course, as we have discussed previously, it was the landing gear which made that hole; the nose is (as Deets says) much too fragile to do that. Deets is making a classic strawman argument here.

4. Deets endorses the flyover conspiracy theory! LOL, so much for Deets, he joins the CIT nutbars in Troofer hell.

5. Note that they interview Rob Balsamo at Freeway Airport. Why not interview Marcel Bernard, as Dylan did, or one of the pilots who actually flew with Hani Hanjour the day he was refused rental of a Cessna? Could it be that Bernard's assessment of Hanjour as an average to below average pilot wouldn't support the conspiracy theory?

6. Jesse's gofer proves unable to hit the Pentagon in the flight simulator (with a Troofer as his co-pilot). But why not have a real professional pilot who's not a nutbar try it? The gofer says he's flown "a few times" in small planes; Hanjour had a professional air pilot's license and hundreds of hours in a simulator. It's pretty clear that Jesse's bending over backwards to support the conspiracy theory.

7. Love the dolt who compares the Pentagon crash to the Potomac crash. Let's see should there be any difference in the condition afterwards between a plane that hits a river, and a plane that hits a massive concrete building?

8. Voice-morphed crap, with Dewdney. Note that there is no discussion as to whether the voice-morphing shown today (2010) was that good in 2001. My guess is no, that it wasn't. Also, we aren't shown this being done in real-time, as it would be in a phone conversation where there has to be some back and forth between the participants.

9. The usual nuttery about the missing $2.3 trillion, and how this was all a plot to make sure everybody forgot about that press conference where Rumsfeld announced it. As usual, nobody notes that, gee, maybe if Rumsfeld wanted everybody to forget about it, maybe he could have, oh, I don't know, NOT ANNOUNCED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

As James indicated, it does seem like a flashback to 2005, and it's causing some indigestion among the Troofers. At Flogger:

The Pentagon no planers have been straightened out six ways from Sunday for years now. This is an exercise in repetition. You are aware of these challenges as most are. This episode is a circus of ridiculous misinformation. It's incoherent, rambling conspiracy porn of the worst kind, and does extreme injustice to 9/11 Truth. The IDEA that a missile was involved, is something not even CIT accepts as credible. It's utter delusional crackpottery. Dwain Deets?? He got it handed to him in debate on this site. He knows next to nothing about the Pentagon. Rob "Tends towards planes at the WTC" Balsamo??


The guys at the misnamed 9-11 Debunkers site were more enthusiastic:

I was skeptical about this episode, and almost didn't bother watching it. But I'm glad I did, it was so much better than I thought it would be.

They exposed how Norman Mineta's testimony that suggests a standdown was covered up. They interviewed Charles Lewis about what he heard at LAX. They demonstrated the ludicrous difficulty of the official flight path using a flight simulator. They demonstrated the power of voice morphing technology, which was mindblowing even for me. And the exposing of the 9/11 commission at the end was excellent.

And best of all, no CIT!

Yes, no CIT, but the program did manage to endorse CIT's flyover theory, the most controversial part of CIT's entire position.

Troof Action? Crickets over there, but we'll presume given their usual stance on the Pentagon crap that they were not amused.

My take? It's an embarrassing episode, which does no credit to anybody involved. I'd like to support the supposed skeptic on the show, but he was mostly a paper tiger, there to put up minimal resistance to Jesse's kookery. The black British gal (June) was every bit as credulous as she was in last year's episode.
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