Cosmos Been Lyin'?

Color me not surprised at this news. Cosmos, a regular at Troof Action, and a founding editor of the new 9-11 Troof News, has claimed for years that an uncle of his, Mickey Rothenberg, was one of the heroes who died on Flight 93. Here he is making the claim in a video:

As pointed out by Adam Syed, the original bios at Troof News included this relationship:

Cosmos is an artist and musician whose uncle was murdered in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

But the current version is changed:

Cosmos is a survivor of Mark Rothenberg, a family friend who was murdered on September 11, 2001.

Cosmos explains:

Yes, Mark Rothenberg was known to me as "Uncle Mickey" when I was growing up. I don't speak about Mickey much, but usually when I do I'm careful to point out that he was a close family friend, not a blood relative - specifically for the purpose of heading off the kind of smear that Barrett is engaging in here. That's why I've never referred to myself as a "9/11 family member", despite the fact that Mickey was, for all intents and purposes, family.

That is BS. Cosmos has often mentioned his uncle Mickey (as in the video) and never (at least to my knowledge) carefully pointed out that he was a close family friend, not a blood relative. Syed has several examples of Cosmos talking about his "uncle" being murdered.

Note that I don't endorse the further idiocy of Syed, who speculates that perhaps Cosmos is a family member who supports the "official story", and who is working to undermine the Troof Movement. IMHO, Cosmos just used "Uncle" Mickey as a shield. How dare anybody question him; his uncle was murdered in the attacks!

Update: The kooks at Truth Action are now claiming that Kevin Barrett is paid to spread these scurrilous attacks:

Paid disinfo agent Kevin Barrett immediately scoops up anything and everything that can divide and discredit a legitimate movement. What else is there to say? Short of finding his paycheck stubs from the DIA or the State Department.

Anything to avoid admitting that he's just another nut.

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Kevin Barrett Finally Wins Something

I have been on vacation, so I missed this, but Kevin "Hang em high" Barrett made the media again, with Rolling Stone journalist and frequent truther critic Matt Taibbi awarding him the Most Obnoxious Thing on the Internet This Month. Matt might be a little behind though, because he is usually the most obnoxious thing on the Internet any month.

The author is a Truther and former Fullbright scholar from Wisconsin named Kevin Barrett who at one point was a professor at UW but left amid controversy over his lunatic-ass views. (I love the fact that the last course he was scheduled to teach at Wisconsin was on The Canterbury Tales). Barrett starts out by pointing out the huge percentages of the worldwide Muslim population believe 9/11 was an inside job, then adds that the Mosque should be turned into a kind of museum of American treachery:

The best means of repentance and reparation, in my view, would be for the U.S. government to fund and build a new mosque at Ground Zero covering the entire World Trade Center site, with twin minarets looming above in memory of the Twin Towers’ destruction by genocidal Islamophobes. The minarets should be more than 700 feet in height, which would make the new structure the world’s tallest mosque.

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Louis Farrakhan, 9-11 Truther

Pretty standard issue crackpottery here.

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When Troofers Attack Their Own

All I can say is, I hope they all brought rusty knives. Donna Marsh O'Connor, who's been hanging out with the Troofer dolts for years, appeared on Keith Olbermann's show the other day in support of the Ground Zero mosque. But she had the temerity to mention the hijackers, and the "Truthers" went batcrap crazy:

The foundation for her entire argument can be heard at minute mark 4:34, where Ms. Connor says:

"...and I have to acknowledge that the pain I am feeling essentially comes from 19 individual criminals who murdered 3,000 people on our soil, and it has left us horrifically scared." [emphasis mine]

But, there is no proof that the FBI's list of ALLEGED hijackers were indeed guilty of the crimes and murders on 9/11/01. Or, indeed if they were even aboard the airplanes that day.

Don't you just love that "alleged" bit? The Troofers are happy to toss charges around willy-nilly, but when it comes time to talk about the actual criminals who were indeed responsible for 9-11 they act like Mohamed Atta is going to sue them for sullying his good name.

As usual, the really fruity stuff comes out in the comments:

She still perpetuates the myth that the 19 Muslim guys with box cutters are the perps. That is not a good thing.

I was pretty surprised when I heard that statement as I watched this piece live. I could've sworn she was supportive of 9/11 truth and was aware of all the evidence against the OCT. I was disappointed. I was hoping she'd appeal to Kieth to look for the truth, not just perpetuate the myth.

NOONE has the right to be ignorant and agnostic as to the crimes committed on 9-11. I read her remarks as a rather clear endorsment of the official story. And that´s a grave betrayal of those slaughtered on 9-11-2001.

While it's polite to be sympathetic to those who lost family members, there's no excuse for Donna's non-factual public opinion - an opinion that hurts the whole movement.

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Building Wut Unveils Ad

LOL! The usual bit about how "nobody knows that another building, which was not hit by a plane, collapsed that day." I have always said that Building 7 is a thin reed to build popular support for the Troof, for the simple reason that it takes too many logical leaps to get to the point where it fits in with the conspiracy theory.

Note as well that the Troofers have scaled back their fundraising objective without quite mentioning it. Let's do the math again. At 9-11 Flogger, we are exhorted to "watch the ad that one million New Yorkers will see," and reminded that each $750 donated will result in another 10,000 seeing the ad. So to get the one million viewers, they will need to air 100 ads. Times 750 is $75,000, which is roughly $15,000 per week, which they only missed by about 35% in the first week.

It is interesting to see more of a side view of the collapse (at about 16-17 seconds in), because it refutes Box Boy's claim that the collapse was symmetrical, and straight down through the path of most resistance.

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WAC 9-11 Festivities Downplay Jones, Harrit and Ryan

Looks like there's a changing of the guard in the Troof Movement. The WAC-NY crew finally got off their butts and organized some festivities in NYC for the ninth anniversary celebration. But note who's highlighted at the top: Box Boy Gage, Cindy Sheehan, Cynthia McKinney, and Jason Bermas. And who comes down (faster than freefall) at the bottom: Waterboy Kevin Ryan, Steven Jones and Niels Harrit. In what they call "the big event", here are the featured speakers:

Colleen Rowely, Anthony Shaffer, Cynthia Mckinney, Cindy Sheehan, Richard Gage, First Responder Major Mike McCormick, Charlie Veitch, Jason Bermas, Gary Franchi, Bob Shulz, Christine Ebersole, Daniel Sunjata and many more from the Saturday and Sunday panels.

Yep, the ditzy blonde from Broadway (Ebersole) gets a star billing, while the chips are apparently down for the thermite triplets, who are featured only on a Sunday evening panel, when presumably most of the crackpots will have left for home.

One other odd note: Don Siegelman, the convicted former governor of Alabama will apparently be attending. I'm not sure who is hurt more by this association.

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Gage-Thomas Debate, Part II

Enjoyed Dave Thomas' solo section quite a bit more than I did Box Boy's. I found it especially interesting that Thomas was able to use David Chandler's measurements to prove that there was some slight deceleration at each floor.

The real revelation though was when Niels Harrit got on the show. Lord knows, Richard Gage isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but compared to Harrit he's a genius. This guy is seriously a physics--correction, chemistry--professor? He says that he doesn't need any complicated models or experiments to prove that the WTC was a controlled demolition, just the evidence of his eyes? Niels, the evidence of our eyes tells us that the sun revolves around the Earth.

I haven't yet gotten to the point where Gage starts talking about the Lusitania getting us into World War I yet. The host does try to draw out Gage about who "they" are, but as usual, Box Boy is just hinting darkly at the conspiracy theory angle and sticking to his "evidence".

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Glenn Zarmanov Exposes the Troof!

I'm beginning to enjoy this fruitcake. Wonder if his film will dare to expose the real truth behind the Simpsons episode: That there really was more than one bathroom in each WTC tower, and that there was no guy selling klulklash out in front of the towers?

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Gage-Thomas Debate Analysis

I was unable to listen to it live, but I'm listening to an MP3 now thanks to JREF Forum member Sam.I.Am. I've heard the first half hour (all Box Boy) so far and here's the bingo card as I have it:



As predicted, Gage filled in the bulk of the card quickly. You could argue for "Never Before In History", although Gage's phrasing (about WTC-7) was "Third worst structural failure in history," so I'm leaving it open for now. And he skirts close to the missing pancakes, but just talks about pancaking collapse, so we'll give that one a pass so far as well.

The host had to press him on what he thought happened; as usual Gage would rather talk about "evidence" without quite connecting the dots himself. However, near the end of the segment, Box Boy does indicate that two companies that should be investigated are the security company and Ace Elevator, so he is being forced to elaborate on his conspiracy theory.

I'll post further thoughts as I listen to the rest of the show.

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Huge Success for Building What Campaign!

What success, you ask? Well, this time they only fell short of their goal by 90%. By comparison with their other failures, that looks pretty good.

Dear Friends,
Thank you for helping us meet our target for the first week of the “BuildingWhat?” fundraising drive! We have $10,547 in the bank to air TV ads showing footage of Building 7 all over New York City. After expenses that’s enough to reach 100,000 people with 10 spots. Who wants to see enough raised for 500 spots? Every $750 we raise is enough for another spot to reach another 10,000 people, so please contribute generously and ask your friends to contribute too! Go to BuildingWhat.org.

Remember that they were hoping to get about $100,000 per week; seems to me that they missed the target by about $89,453. And note in particular that they seem to have had a lot of "expenses". Let's see, they raised $10,500, and it costs them $750 per ad, and they have enough to do 10 spots. Doesn't that indicate that their "expenses" were around $3,000? And what TV show could they be advertising on in New York City that they only reach 10,000 viewers?

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Dave Thomas to Debate Box Boy Gage and Harrit on Coast to Coast

It's apparently going to be a four-hour extravaganza tomorrow (Saturday night) on the show best known for alien abductions and Bigfoot. Dave has already done an admirable job of debunking Gage in an impromptu debate and I am confident that he will shred Box Boy in this one, for which he's been prepping awhile. Check your local listings for the time and station. If you want to play a little drinking game, here's a bingo card:

Adventurous souls with strong livers could do a drink after completing either a row or column; I'd be very surprised if half that card isn't filled in in the first ten minutes.

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Congressman Alan Grayson, Truther

Well, we have a new candidate for the Troofer with the highest office in the land: Congressman Alan Grayson of Florida comes out in favor of the LIHOP theory. He's a freshman, was swept into office with 52% of the vote in 2008. Expect him to be dragged out to sea with the tide in November, but in the meantime he's got some 'splainin' to do.

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Eric Lawyer Debunked

Over at JREF, by triforcharity.

At: 39 seconds in, he asked for an investigation that follows the standards and has contempt and subpoena powers. The "Standards" he is referring to, is NFPA's guidelines. Well, as we have already established, NFPA is not a law enforcement agency, and makes no laws. See above.

At about: 40 seconds in, he says that “This should have been the most protected, preserved, over tested and thorough investigation in world history."

Well, you see it was. Fresh Kills rings a bell. The FDNY and NYPD could not logically say that nobody was to try to rescue anyone, or move anything, until this scene was completely documented. To ask that is asinine at best.

Yep. This is one of the more idiotic things that Troofers say. Remember, they claim to represent the first responders and the victims. But they would have called off all search and rescue operations and put up crime scene tape all over the site, rather than save the 17 or so people who were actually pulled out of the pile and survived.

Note as well, this post there (#3) by tfk, quoting one of the men involved in training of the canines involved in the search and rescue operation:

No explosives or incendiary devices were planted anywhere in that complex. None. Our dogs and the other EDD K9's would have alerted after the fact as well. It's what they are trained for. We staged for the two weeks we were there at the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island. This is where much of the structural steel was brought. Despite rumors to the contrary, chain of custody was maintained and virtually all of the steel was cataloged and vital pieces were inspected. Not a single dog ever alerted to the presence of either explosives or incendiary residue.
Not one.

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8/17 Was an Inside Job!

Yesterday afternoon the 12 story building I worked in was rattled by a pair of massive explosions. Fellow employees filed into the hall asking anxiously what it was. I knew the answer of course, thermite. Soon reports filed in from all over the Puget Sound, people were calling 9/11 to the point that it shut down the system in Tacoma. The newspaper finally reported that what happened is a private plane got to close to Air Force One, which was parked for a visit by President Obama at Boeing Field. The Air National Guard down in Portland scrambled a pair of F-15s, and in their hurry to get up to Seattle they broke the sound barrier. Having been stuck on I-5 making that commute several times, I was very jealous.

Anyway, so as it turns out by the time the planes got there, the intruder, a seaplane no less, was gone and there was no intercept (alert David Ray Griffin). It turned away and landed up in Kenmore, where the pilot was later questioned by the Secret Service. Do they really expect us to believe that a seaplane, capable of maybe 80 knots, can outrun a pair of supersonic fighters? Please....

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