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11/11/07 Update: Loose Change Final Cut has just been released and so we have not prepared a full debunking. Both James and I have many comments about the movie below and I started a thread over at JREF with some examples of mistakes in the film. Much of the rest of the information in this particular post concerns the earlier versions of Loose Change.

Because this blog is getting so much traffic from Google searches and referrals from various forums and Wikipedia, we decided to put one post up top to link to information our newest visitors are apparently looking for.

First, if you have not seen the film and want to watch it, be sure to watch the annotated version, which was named after this blog, Screw Loose Change. The creator did a terrific job on this, and we strongly recommend watching this version rather than Dylan Avery's cut.

James has put together a list of major lies in Loose Change. Here's Part 1. Part 2. Part 3. Part 4.

I compiled three very easily refuted lies in the movie. I also showed three tricks and distortions that are used throughout the film.

A friend of the blog named Mark Roberts (aka Gravy at the JREF forums) compiled this amazing Viewer's Guide to Loose Change, (now HTML) which includes a complete transcript of the movie, pictures and links that refute many of the claims, and which highlights the changes between Version 1 and Version 2.

The hot new film in 9-11 Denial is called 9-11 Mysteries. One of our JREF buddies, The Doc, has put together a rebuttal video called (you guessed it!) Screw 9-11 Mysteries, and assembled a viewers' guide to 9-11 Mysteries.

Many 9-11 Deniers focus on the collapse of World Trade Center 7, which fell at 5:20 PM on September 11, almost seven hours after the North Tower. If you want a really detailed analysis of WTC 7, I recommend Mark Robert's WTC 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement. I also recommend the BBC's terrific video on The Third Tower.

If you'd like to discuss the ideas about 9-11 you've encountered here or elsewhere, another friend of the blog started a Screw Loose Change Forum. It's a very lively place with lots of opinion back and forth between both sides. There's also a Screw Loose Change MySpace page, with some animated commentary. Of course, we also welcome comments on our posts.

If you're looking for detailed rebuttals of other aspects of 9-11 Denial, I heartily recommend 9-11 Myths, Debunking 9-11 and Internet Detectives.

Markyx has also put together a video (note: graphic images and strong language) called 9-11 Deniers Speak. If you think Dylan Avery and Jim Fetzer have any respect for the victims of 9-11, just watch this film. There are five parts. Part II, Part III, Part IV, Part V.
There's also a Google Video which is all in one part.

This should be enough to get you started debunking Loose Change to your friends. We have a lot more content below this post.

Notes on unusual terms/abbreviations: Looser (not a misspelling of Loser)=Believer in Loose Change. CT=Conspiracy Theory, Conspiracy Theorist. Truther=9-11 Conspiracy Theorist (all Loosers are Truthers, not all Truthers are Loosers). OS=Official Story. CD= Controlled Demoliton. LIHOP: Let It Happen On Purpose; theory that the government knew the 9-11 attacks were coming but allowed them to happen to further other goals of theirs. MIHOP: Made It Happen On Purpose; theory that the government planned and orchestrated the attacks. Most Truthers are MIHOP.

Update: Comments closed on this post, which is intended solely as a pointer. Because Haloscan will not let us close comments on a particular post, be forewarned: Don't leave a comment in this post or it will be deleted.

Update II: Note on comments: Because some of our commenters have chosen to act like children, we are no longer allowing comments.

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Ben Swann Drinks the Kook-Aid

Never heard of this guy before, but surfing over to his website, I see he's kind of a kinder, gentler Alex Jones.  Lots of fear-mongering about Agenda 21, the Federal Reserve, Obama's gonna take your guns, etc.  He announced last week that he was going to "take on" the Rethink 9-11 Campaign, Richard Gage's latest effort to reanimate the corpse of 9-11 Troof.

I had little hope for this to begin with; about the best that could be anticipated was that he would yammer something about how the Truthers were distracting people from the very real dangers we face because (insert alternate paranoid fantasy here).

Instead, he took on the task of sucking up big-time to the Truthers, repeating every talking point from Gage and the others like a trained parrot.

Rethink 911 is the first ever global 9/11 anniversary campaign. Sponsored by a coalition of more than 40 organizations, ReThink911 is placing ads in 11 major cities around the world this September 2013.
But what is there to rethink? According to a group called Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, you need to start by rethinking the third building that fell that day.

And it goes downhill from there.  Tony Zamboni gives the usual bs about how no building in history every came down that way that wasn't a controlled demolition, and works in his usual spiel about the missing jolt.  Bob McIlvaine repeats his bizarre claim that his son died before the planes hit:

I can say with confidence that Bobbie died, and I can say with confidence before the planes hit.   So the point is, the planes had nothing to do with his death and I could prove that in a court of law pretty easily.

And they've got a new poll!

According to that poll, 38% of Americans have doubts about the official account of 9/11 and 10% do not believe it at all.  That is compared to only a minority of those polled, 40% who are completely satisfied.

Well, that's giving a very generous reading to the actual poll results (PDF file)

40% I am completely satisfied with the government’s account

38% I have some doubts as to whether the government’s account fully explains

everything

10% I do not believe the government’s account at all

12% I don’t know/ Not sure

Some doubts as to whether the government's account fully explains everything? That's not tinfoil hat territory by any means; I might even go along with that statement.  They want you to lump the 38% who are reasonably skeptical that everything has been disclosed, with the 10% who are nutters.  I'd say that the 38% should go with the 40%; call them people who are generally satisfied with the government's explanation, but may have minor doubts about some of the details.

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Richard Gage: Hard at Work, or Hardly Working?

You may recall that Box Boy Gage claims on the IRS forms for his group that he works 80 hours a week.  Sunup to Sundown, all 7 days in other words.  But I guess Gage's work is like an iceberg, where 90% of it is hidden.  Check out his upcoming events calendar.

Three of the "upcoming" events have already passed; the only real future event is in DC in September, and even that one is marked "tentative".  I assume that's the Pentagon kookery event we talked about a couple weeks ago.  BTW, that event is now a sell-out.  And even there, Gage is only scheduled for 30 minutes.

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Is DC the Place to Be?

For the twelfth anniversary of 9-11?

Kevin Barrett plans to be part of the Million Muslim March.

AMPAC will be forcefully announcing its presence with a “Million Muslim March” on the White House on September 11, 2013. The goal, announced at AMPAC’s press conference in New York:

“We at AMPAC (American Muslim Political Action Committee) are planning a historic event for 9/11/13. One million Muslims will march to Washington D.C. and demand that our civil rights be protected by our government. We are demanding that laws be enacted protecting our First Amendment rights. We are asking President Obama to fulfill his promise from his first campaign for the Presidency of a transparent government. Lastly we are asking for the establishment of a real 9/11 Commission to reveal the truth to the American people.”

AMPAC founder M.D. Rabbi Alam, a well-known Missouri Democratic Party organizer, points out that American Muslims, like other Americans, were targeted on 9/11. More than 60 Muslims were murdered in the explosive demolitions of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11, and a mosque in the South Tower was annihilated. Alam points out that “Muslim and non-Muslim alike were traumatized by 9/11, but we as Muslims continue twelve years later to be victimized by being made the villains.”

Note the explosive demolitions crap.

As an adjunct to this no doubt enormous march, there will be a confab in Pentagon City, Virginia, the following weekend with Box Boy Gage as the featured speaker.  I do like this detail from the agenda:

Morning Theme – Understanding the Pentagon Attack

9:30

Moderator

Kevin Barrett,

Long-time Public 911truth Advocate

What Happened? Three Perspectives

Dwain Deets, Retired Aerospace Research Engineer -- Plane Hit the Pentagon

Matt Sullivan, Former Editor, Rock Creek Free Press--Citizens Investigation Team (CIT) position, Plane Did Not Hit the Pentagon

Barbara Honegger, Retired Military Affairs Journalist -- Preplaced Explosives and Heliport Plane

They are going to spend three stupifying hours on this topic. Note that Deets, who gets to endorse the official story of the Pentagon, was a CIT flyover kook in Jesse Ventura's  moronic episode on the Pentagon.




Deets' segment starts about 11:45 into that video. Right about 14:00 Deets specifically proposes the flyover theory.

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You Can't Handle the Truther

The guys over at Skeptic Magazine try their hand at humor. Pretty funny.

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Dylan is Back

Loose Change's Dylan Avery is back giving an interview on 9/11 conspiracy films together with Jonathan Elinoff of Core of Corruption to Jesse Ventura's son Tyrel and some guy I have never heard of. I thought Dylan had moved out west to go legit like Michael Corleone, but I guess they always pull you back in.

Nothing too exciting about the interview, but I do find it amusing how someone always has a friend in the FBI or the Mossad who secretly told them the truth about 9/11, but apparently doesn't have any actual evidence or has never told anyone who mattered. Yeah, OK, I have a friend in the FBI and he thinks you are a moron.

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Abby Martin Gets Bent Out of Shape

I enjoyed this one:



Not a big fan of Maddow myself, but she's on the right side in this fight.

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